What’s Been Going On – Guest Hosted by Candace Chisholm

Hey, I'm Steve Young and you're watching the Letterman podcast. I hope you enjoy. Welcome to the Letterman podcast. I am your host, Candace Chisum. I'm actually not your host. I'm a co-host. No, you're hosting tonight. No, I'm kind of a host tonight. I'm a host because your host has been MIA. So, as in me? As in you. So, you know, we're here. We dragged him down, sat him in front of this this camera, and said, "Damn it, start talking, mister." I'm just kidding. We didn't do that, but almost. Welcome. Welcome to my show. Yeah, you're supposed to introduce the guest. Oh, with me today is Mike Chisum. You may remember him from the Lottoman podcast. I know it's been 3,649 days since he's appeared, but here he is. He's alive. I think there were questions that maybe I had stuffed you into a freezer. Oh, maybe not. Maybe not. That wasn't that's recreational. Welcome to the show, Mike. Because um thanks, wifey. I appreciate you doing the heavy lifting tonight. Well, you know what? Um, I think people have missed you. Um, okay. I'm going to say straight up and I I would make a joke out of that except I've gotten too many messages from people um who have reached out and I I I left a couple I just burped. Did you see that? I know. I literally just said to please don't burp on camera. I'm sorry. I did. I burped.

You drink air when you drink the thing. I slammed back a cold brew coffee. And for those I'm not a huge coffee guy. Like I at 10 p.m. Yeah, I play with pain. we can do this. Um, and so she said to me, she goes, "You're gonna slam that thing back." And it's a little it's a little like it's not even a can like it's it's concentrated, right? And she said, "You're gonna burp." And I'm like, "No, no, no. I got this." And I just Anyhow, and I burped. It's been a while since you've done a podcast, so I'll try to keep you on track. Um, I do have to thank every I put up a cryptic message on on the Facebook a little bit talking about um where I've been. And uh okay, for those who hate the show but tolerate the show, my dad's got dementia. Podcast has slowown down because of it. It's the first week that we've never released one since we started this thing. August 20th of 2022. Uh I think we've been three weeks since an episode. No, I'm not quitting the show. Did you get that? Sorry. There's a couple people saying what's going on with the podcast. Not Not that they hate the haters. They're there though. Don't have haters. Oh, there are people who are like, "We want Letterman content, but does it have to be him?" There are those people. For those people, the show just Don's like, "What a relief. That guy gets so much wrong."

Um, thank you for that. She's been making me laugh a little bit. It's been a It's been hard. So, the show is not dead. It's coming back. I don't know if the frequency will slow down or whatever, but I'm at the hospital almost every day cuz my dad's got dementia. Okay. Well, we're going to get to that. It's my show. So, so I'm just letting them know. So, they can stop listening now if they want to. Although, why would you? The lovely and talented Candace Chisum is here. Why would you stop listening? Well, I actually feel like I should apologize. My hair is wild today. I'm looking in this. I love your hair. Yeah. I've been playing with six-year-olds all day and it shows. And then he said, "Hey, we're going to go do recording." So I played date with the granddaughter today. It was awesome. It's a little Elvyra. Oh, I love your hair. You know, for the first three or four years of our marriage. I think you've said this on this camera. I don't care. I would wake up in the morning and I would just turn and look. She would be up ahead of me by about a half hour, 45 minutes, whatever. And I would literally just sit there in bed watching her in the en suite straighten her hair. And I'm like, "What are you doing?" Like I love your like natural. That's the real deal right there. Her hair is amazing. I adore it. Right. It's one of the many things I love about you. Nobody cares.

Okay, before we get into because we do have definitely some serious things to talk about and Oh, we're going to be everywhere. I I know. But I think we I wanted to first talk about our ensoms. What we're wearing. Yes. Who wore it better? Oh, okay. You always wear it better. So, let's talk about like you got the cleavage. I can't match that. You got the You see? Yeah. I I don't actually. No, I'm saying who wore it better. You always wear it better. Okay. See this? No, the the the sweatshirt. So, okay. Yeah, this is a special hoodie. Um, this is a very special hoodie because um you see it's it's it's got the M in the middle of Late Show. Let me see. See the patch there? So, this is a hoodie that we got directly from. It actually wasn't Rupert, it was May. May gave us this and our pants hoodie. You know, the gray pants hoodie that you keep stealing from me. You keep absconding from me. Those came from and I we got a video of it in the letter and podcast Facebook group. I did a live when I was in New York and as I was going through I was literally walking from I think it was O'Donnell's from Steve O'Donnell's who we love. Yes, we love Steve O'Donnell. Shout out to our good friend Steve O'Donnell, one of the Steves. Shout out to Steve Young.

Steve Young on Sunday has um a live stream. It's an event that's happening in New York. Go see it. The Caveat Theater, I believe it's called. Um, go see it if you're in New York. If you're not in New York, they're live streaming it. 2 p.m. PST. Uh, 5:00 p.m. EST. I'm going to be watching it cuz you're out. You're out on Sunday, right? Yeah. Okay. So, I'm going to be watching it and maybe we can do a watch party. Um, Steve Young, we wish him the best of luck. And then it could have been Steve Winers. Anyways, I was walking back from No, it was the upper west side. It was It was It was uh So, anyways, I was walking back to the hotel and I happened to pass the Hello Deli and I'm like, "Oh, I got to go just walk by, right?" because this is one of the early incarnations of my trip out and trips out to New York after starting the show. It's within the first year. I think it's about six months in and I walk by and much to my delight, May was there was closed and she was like doing some inventory stuff and she's like she saw me and I Facebook live the whole thing and I interviewed May right then and there. I remember.

Yeah. Yeah. And then she's got these two sweat uh uh hoodies. So this one here, they're both for the crew only. The pants one is so great. It's from 2010. This is 2011. And 2011, the reason that there's an M there is because um one of the Late Show makeup artists, Michelle, lost her she she she passed away. And and and she was so much the family that they took the the the jacket that year and the ensemble that year, the customized the the ones they would do every single year. This is the last one that I'm wearing right now. I'm wearing Thank you and good night. That was 2015. um you know, late show 93 to 2015 on the patch there. This is the jacket that everyone got. That jacket was devoted to Michelle. Yeah. And so too was a matching hoodie. Well, May had one and um she's like, "You know what? Uh we're retiring here. Here, handed them over." And you have worn both of them many, many times. Now, we're going to do a little trick here because we have the hoodie here. You wear the hoodie all the time, right? Yeah. Okay.

I'm going to get you to take the hoodie off. Uh oh. Yes, this is uh this will keep part of the audience, especially the YouTube the YouTube. You're not naked. She's not naked under um the YouTube portion of the audience. This is why they're going to stay watching the show cuz you're going to take that off. That's not true. Okay. So, I'll be right back. So, you take that off and uh say something clever while you're taking it off. Uh so, how's things? This is so awkward. Yeah, I know. Okay. I'm over here now. Why is your strip be music circus music? That's what it would be. It's not even like wicked. It's like circus music. That's your strip music. Okay, now I'll take the hoodie. Is it just cuz you want to see my Look at your Oh yeah, Candy's going to be in a body. Look at my wife. She's freaking a beast. Okay, now put this one on. This is the first time anyone's ever wearing this. It's still got its tags on it.

I don't know if it'll fit over my manly shoulder. Oh, no. It fits perfectly. Oh, look at you. Oh my gosh. This is the first time the human is wearing this. I got this from George Schwitzer Schwitzer who was the head of marketing for CBS and he did the show. And so this is the jacket. This is Michelle's jacket and it's never been worn. It's still Yeah. It's never been worn. You're the first time it's be This is 2012's jacket. It's the first time it's ever been worn. And George Schwitzer, who was the head of all of CBS marketing for five decades, gave us that. Wow. Plus two other I've got eight. I think we've got eight jack. We've got eight Letterman jackets now. It's not It's a team effort, right? Yeah. That's how that's how he gets it past the border. Right. So, this one here is a very special one. I I I've I've barely I've taken out to look at it a couple of times. It's never been worn, but this is Michelle's I Well, of course. It's amazing. This little collar thing. It's amazing.

It's such a beautiful jacket. So anyway, um, so you're you're wearing that now because it's very comfortable. I'm wearing Thank you and good night. U, which is I wear the 99 one, the pants, the big pants one more than anything. I love that jacket. It's so Look at me. I love wearing that jacket. Um, but thank you and good night is like it's so special to me. It's still got the tags on it as well. I wear it very I wore it to Vancouver. We wore it to go see Nick Puiter at the found footage festival.

You want to talk about that? Yep. But underneath it is, so this is one of my favorite jacket. I love this jacket. And then underneath it is one of my favorite Letterman collectibles at all time. Daniel Flity gave me this and I can't cameraman I cannot thank him enough for this. This is the Foo Fighters shirt that they gave. It's like a Foo Fighters gig shirt. There's Letterman on it on the back of it um for the dates. It's like a concert tee. It's all the times they appeared on Late Show and this is the gift that they gave to the entire crew the very last night of Late Show with David Letterman, the same night that the crew was given these jackets. And so I'm wearing that right now because we're getting close to the anniversary. And um April 20th, April 20th is ours. May 20th is Dave's. April 20th is ours. And the reason that's ours is because that was the night we were in the audience. Oh, we were there. April 20th. There's a ticket right there. Are you tired of me telling that story? Yep.

Okay. I mean, no. We'll kill my No, no. Yeah, it's okay. I get it. I'm tired of They may be. Oh, that goes without saying. Okay. Anyway, is any of this usable? Yeah, I think. All right. Mildly entertaining. So, you know, so funny. You you've been gone for and and I have to say that this has been it's been hard to watch. I think you not do this because you love it so much. I do. And um and I you know I mean how how honest do you get here? Pretty honest. What do you mean? Oh yeah. No, I mean you know I think there's been a couple if for anything on this show it's vulnerable. Yeah. Um and you know some people like that, some people don't like that but but times it's just you know you were like I'm I'm not sure if I can continue. Yeah. I So I want to talk about why. Yeah. First of all um so your dad you know you threw that out there. or your dad has dementia, but um your dad has a specific very specific type of dementia.

Yeah. And uh it's very it's very cerebral and it's very um it's it's very real watching somebody go through this. This is my first time in somebody so close to me uh going through this. So maybe tell us a little bit about what's been going on there. Yeah. So, um, the day after, so so a couple weeks ago, we were supposed to release an episode with Steve Winer, and I that's still going to come out. It's going to be dated. I'm going probably shoot a different intro for it. Um, and the next day, the day after, um, I got a call from my mom. And, um, so my dad's been suffering with dementia for the last about about two years. And but the last year, like in January of 24, I like became like the advocate. Like it's like, okay, now I'm getting copied on anything any of the doctors are saying because the dementia is starting to kind of it's getting more than just dad's losing track of the calendar. Mh.

And it was um he as Candy alluded to my dad has the same dementia that Robin Williams had which is it's called it's called Louis L E W Y Louie body B O D Y I think is it Louis Body? Yeah. And it's attached dementia. It's it's attached it's it's it's not in the Alzheimer's family and some of the traditional dementia. That's a weird way of putting it but I guess that's yeah as good a way as any. Um, I it's it's it's it's in the Parkinson's family and it is like like we knew my dad was seeing things, right? But it it really really really started taking a jump last year.

Well, one of the symptoms is is hallucinations. That's a big one. And and it's like I mean there's a movie and I forget the name of the movie. Somebody will somebody correct me uh on here. There's a movie about No, maybe not Don. Well, no, maybe Don. Never know. But I think it came out in the late 70s or the early 80s, maybe mid 80s. And it's about a guy who gets supreme intelligence and then knows he's losing it and knows he's compromised. That's been my dad for a while. And so when he saw stuff and he'll literally see people in the house, he'll see animals and he will go and try and chase them under the bed. They are that real to him. He will see coming out of the wall. If he looks and sees um you know this camera in front of us, he's looking at the camera going, "Oh, okay. Oh, there's the camera. Oh, look at it's starting to light up and it's starting to move over this way and it just stuff just Yeah. and it becomes his reality.

And um but then there was a time this last year where my dad uh he would know that he that what he was seeing wasn't there. If there were people in the room, he'd be like, "Okay, go away." And he sometimes would be able to will them away. Mostly happened around the time that he was getting drowsy. Uh but then it steadily steadily steadily got worse and to the point now where uh three weeks ago and we knew this was going to happen. So we've been doing appointments with him for the last few months neurologists and social workers, psychiatrists um every yeah a whole bunch of different plus my dad has rheumatoid rheumatoid arthritis and has since he was um 40 40 42 or something and and so you know he's got a rheatologist and and all these people. So I'm I'm going to all these appointments with him throughout this last year. And then we always knew that my dad had conquered anger. Okay. And he did. He you remember you you remember my dad when he was when he was angry. No no no anchor. No anger. Yeah. My dad was an angry guy and and and in his 50s went on a journey. Actually podcast on your other podcast for um men's mental health. He's actually done three with your dad. He's been on three times.

Yeah. And my dad in part one he talked about his anger. Yeah. So he cast the official podcast of He Chedd. Hey, how's he changed it going? Good, thanks. Okay, awesome. Um, and and so yeah, so he knew it was happening and we would talk about these hallucinations and we would talk about, you know, what he was going through, but he knew it was happening. Well, we knew that there was a good chance that that anger might come back and all of the lessons that he had learned from his, you know, his 50s and 60s is it's really when he when he really went through his life change of of of of attitude and trying to drop that anger um and deal with it. Well, a couple of times he lost his temper and we knew with my mom up there. Um, it was probably only a matter of time and sure enough, one day he lost his temper so bad. He never put his hands on her, but it was real like he gets this rage. You've seen my dad's rage, right? Like it's it's awful. Very scary. It's scary.

and and and um and now when he's the age that he's at and it's been so long since we've seen that rage a little a little pathetic. Well, as well I think that the the problem is is that when you're talking about the brain and when the brain changes and shifts it the unpredictability is the part that is a little bit more terrifying. Like it's not that a 73y old man is terrifying in that sense. It's the unpredictability of it. That's correct. And especially for my sweet mom. That's right. Yeah. You know, who's a, you know, the empathy. She's like, the word empathy turned into a person.

Yeah. She's glimp. Yeah. She really is just wow. Um, and she was ready cuz she had dealt with it the first few years of their marriage, especially, you know, they gone through some horrible stuff. And then and then up to, you know, my dad changed in his 50s because it was an ultimatum. He was gonna lose my mom or he was going to change. And he changed. and I give him full full marks for that. Um, but we knew that it could go badly one day and I get a phone call one day and and and and it's my cousin who happens to be an RCMP. Um, and and uh the police had been called to my parents house. My mom called them and they were talking to my dad and we knew that if there's a mechanism that can happen where he can be taken away for medical reasons uh due to mental health and and and and if that were to happen we knew all bets would be off all the way from dad would go peacefully um all the way up to dad would potentially attack the police. Um we knew that that could happen. Well, it happened this day here.

Thank goodness. Um you know they gave it was my cousin who's an RCMP officer. he happened to see beyond like again there are no coincidences. I'm fully I fully fully fully believe that. Um and uh the police were called up for my mom's safety and dad uh was talked down off the ledge and he went to the hospital um voluntarily voluntarily and by the time we got to the hospital it was like his descent it's the weirdest thing cuz he had moments of flash like Christmas was fine for the most part and that's two and a half months ago whatever it is. Um, and he was he was fine. But it was almost like when we were in the waiting room of emergency, um, I didn't know that dad was never going to come home from the hospital or a facility at that moment while we're in emergency, but it's almost like he did because it was like he submitted. So, he let go and he kind of came to that world. And that night, we spent the night in uh the secured wing of emergency.

Thank goodness no police were necessary and the security like it was it was it was it was a as far as experiences go a good one. Um and then he's been the next day he was moved over to the dementia ward um at the hospital and he's been there ever since because they're trying to get a handle on him. His Louis body dementia is like I keep saying it to at one point for heast we were talking to was it Zach was it Zach Williams? Yep. Robin Williams son. We've exchanged we exchanged some messages. Yeah, I if anybody out there in our in our world knows Zach, um I would really love to talk to that dude. Um you know, you know, of course, love to have him on Letterman podcast. That'd be amazing.

Talk to him about that and then also maybe can get some awareness for Louis body out there. But I actually just want to have a conversation with that dude and I just want to talk to him. Well, because Sorry, I don't mean to. That's okay. But I think that that's what's important about like having this conversation even here in front of the camera. And it it's interesting because you know you there might be people that'll be like, "Oh man, like I don't know if I'd be talking about all of that in front of everybody, but I think that's what we have to do." You know, like I can't remember. I was actually My dad would want this. Yeah. And I was actually looking to see how long ago it was that Robin passed away. Um do you know how long ago that was? Was it 2013? I was gonna say 2012 2013. Yeah. So we're coming up on 10 years and you know No, it's more than 10 years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. coming up on, you know, between 10 and 15 somewhere. We're not in 2020.

Isn't that crazy? Yeah, it's gone by fast. It's in 3 months. It's 10 years since Dave went off the air. Oh, yeah. It's crazy. We'll talk about that. We got to talk about after midnight. Anyway, but anyways, it it's um you know, like I remember when that happened and everybody's like, "What?" And you know, that's why awareness is so important. That's why talking about it isn't so important. And I think it's very very important for you to talk about it because in again in all transparency you know I know that there's been like well like what if this is hereditary? What if you know? Oh, yeah. Oh, what? Every time I miss a name. Every time I miss a name and I get a lot of names that go through my head between my business and my like tonight like I just put on a financial seminar for three hours and I'm doing this podcast after like I got a lot of moving parts in my life and and and I got a lot of stress and I know logically that of course you have a lot of stress and all this stuff is going on. You haven't been able to do the podcast which is so much of a joy for me and I felt like oh god is it over and and all these sorts of things. Um, so every time I miss, of course I'm stressed out. So every once in a while I'm going to lose a name.

Well, when I lose a name or I lose a term or a word or something, every single time now, doesn't matter the logic, I think, oh god, I've got it, too. I know. And it's been really interesting to sort of experience that like with you. Yeah. Because, you know, I'm so I'm so used to like you're you're so sharp and you're so on it and it is natural for us, you know, as we age. Sorry, but you know you're aging. Sure. It's okay, Peter Pan. You're okay. But it is natural for us. I'm still in my 40s. God damn it. Not for long. But um you know to to have that go on. And I have no concerns. It's not like I I see you slipping. I do I think it's the same thing like you do have a lot of moving parts but it is interesting to watch like I I see fear creeping in and you know and that's why I think it's so important to keep doing this show even though you have haters. Hey but by the way if you have haters that actually means it's a good thing. I don't have any haters. I I'm not I'm not popular enough for people to hate me. The haters were the first ones that showed up.

Okay. Um there's a there's a review on online somewhere and Rogan and some of these other big podcasters are like don't read comments. I'm like, well, you know, until I have a marketing person or whatever to respond to YouTube comments and whatnot, like if there's questions. Well, at first, not so much on the YouTube, the YouTube channel, the Facebook group. We're we're all seems to be a community that's growing, but there's like there you can go find them, the Letterman podcast reviews, and there's a person that's like after episode three, um they put it out there, which is stupid cuz like Darren Cox, hello. And I think uh Mark Carson and Eddie Bril maybe, or anyways, they're like, "Oh, I've wanted a Letterman podcast for so long. I want to like the show so bad, but the host, I just can't get past the host." And there's like a bunch of those. Um Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Maybe if you were Rupert's friend, Rupert, you'd be your show. But Rupert's our friend by the way. They say hi. They want to hang out. Rain and Rupert want to catch up with us over Zoom and they want to hang out with us very soon. Love you guys. Thank you.

Okay, again, I'm going back. So many people have reached out and they have wished me well and my family and you and and everybody and and including Rupert and Re but but many people have and and I just want to say I'm very very um I'm really grateful for that and it means a lot and I'm so thank you very very much for the kindness. I'm gonna ask are you going to continue the Letterman podcast? Yeah. I mean, yeah. I I but like weekly um at this point because I'm at the hospital almost every day. Yeah. It's a weird thing. Like it's a really weird thing like like and and I mean there's social workers and people in our life that say you got to create boundaries. You still got to live your life. There's a thing called suicide by empathy. And it's basically somebody who just gives and gives and gives and gives and gives to someone that they love or something that they love so much that that they end up compromising their life and and and and throwing their life off a cliff. I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that to you. I don't want to do that to, you know, Lara and and and you know, my mom needs me and whatnot. And so when the family needs you, I'm really grateful to Rupert like like he's been he went through something sort of similar and and and and he's been down this road and you know he's been really um really I want to just Rupert G, you're amazing.

Um and and and part of it is just like because that's who he used to be for the Late Show staff. He was kind of that guy to them. Mhm. He's a guy that people could lean on as a confident and and when he's been that for me and I just want to I'm I'm really grateful that he's one of the few people I can kind of really just kind of open up the vulnerability to. He's a great dude. He's a great dude. So, uh but yeah, we're going to continue. I mean, I got so many there's so many irons in the fire like so many good things that that that that are there and on the horizon and and and with the show and I Yeah. I mean, this is I love this thing. Like, why am I wearing this? To make sure it was put up. Oh, yeah. Like, why am I wearing this jacket tonight and this this shirt? They give me joy. Like, I'm just I'm enveloping myself in the things that I love right now. And and and I Yeah, I I love this thing. I mean, Dave's going to have uh he's Dave's going to be live doing a conversation with Paul Schaefer at a at a theater in in in New York in a couple weeks. And I'm I I like that is one of those things where if I didn't have, you know, I would say, "No, let's go to New. go to New York for the weekend to go see, right? Yeah. I don't know the next time I'm going to have any freedom like that.

Um to do something like that because this could be years. We can't get across the border now cuz that people are always like you Canadians and like everybody's mad. I got to pay I got to pay our the people who listen to this show. I got to pay them 25% more now. So yeah, there tariffs on the podcast. That's wild. Like we have so many friends down there and I think everybody thinks that we all like I love you all of Americans. Yes. Oh my gosh. Yes. Steve, I love you. I love you. Although I really want them to move to Canada. Steve Winer and Laura. Yeah. I love you guys. Yeah. But anyways, I just Who are we going to show off our comedic talent to if not the Americans? Oh my god. there. It's been fun watching Mike Myers on Saturday Night Live again. Oh, that makes me happy. No, no, no, no. It's true. Look at We got a lot of Canadian comm comedic talent. Oh, I think I met the US. And I'm like, "Oh, everybody knows us." Us? No, not us. Certainly not us. Okay. Okay. So, moving on. Thank you for sharing that story. Thank you for for telling everybody. Thank you for being vulnerable with it. I know that's not easy, but you know, we're gonna It sucks. I'm losing my dad. It sucks.

Yeah. But by the way, uh it's not without its humor. And I'm grateful for the uh disposition that Dave has that Dave and company put into me because I can kind of say anything to him at this point. And when he sees me, he usually recognizes me, but he started he subbed out words now. Like certain words are now being used. Call you gold bar. He called me a gold bar because he used to be called number one son growing up. And I'm like, "Hey dad, you know who I am, right?" And he goes, "Yeah, you're my number one gold bar." Yeah. I'm like, "What the does that mean?" Obviously, it's precious. I mean, it's But he forgot number one son, so he called me the number one gold bar. Um the other day when I'm leaving, so I mess with him, right? Like I said, "Hey, dad." He goes, "Yeah, were there any women before mom?" He goes, "Oh." And he and make something up and within two or three seconds he's talking about the job site that he's got to go on to. Like I just So I just like feeding him little lines to see what he says. So I'm leaving the word I'm leaving the word. And I'm like, "Dad, I love you so much." And he looks at me and he gives me a salute and he just says with all earnestness and love.

Like I just said, every time I tell I've made him cry a lot. You've seen me make him cry. Like I tell him, "Dad, I love you. I love you so much." And even if he doesn't know who I am, he starts kind of tearing up. And um I know. Nervous. Yeah, I'm a little nervous. Flicking my nails and she caught it. Thank you. You're welcome. Show up, honey. I know. I know it will. Um so I'm like in all earnestness. Dad, I love you so much. much. I'm on the other side of the room. Dad, I love you so much. I'll see you later. And he looks at me with all earnestness and he goes, "Hey, and I just want you to know this is the greatest post office I've ever been in. I wrote it down." Like I'm like, and I get into the hallway and I get new note, please. And I wrote it down. Like it was so funny. And there's lots of moments like that. And in the ward, too. Like I've got video like it's dark. I don't know if it's gallows humor or whatever, but I've got video that my dad doesn't know I'm taking where I'm just saying stuff to him, so he just says the wackiest things and I was thinking, "Oh, should I put out a Twitter account about this or whatever?" But I mean, but it's that funny. Like, it's hilarious, right?

And and and I'm spending more time with him than I typically would. I normally would see my dad, you know, once a week. Now it's kind of a daily thing. and even though he's not my dad, it's so anyway, yes, I um thank you for everybody who has said anything um reached out. Thank you for that. I appreciate it. I've heard it all. I haven't gotten to all of you, but um I love you all and I appreciate and I'm going to Yes, we're going to keep doing this. I just don't I can't guarantee the frequency because my life's a little bit liquid right now. It's a little bit fluid. It's a little bit all over the place. So, well, I'm glad. love you for Thank you for helping me guiding me through this and hosting the show. Do you want the thing? Do you want to be the host? My new show now. You want to be the host? I bet you guests will like you better. Oh my gosh. No, I can't. I don't think I can handle hate mail. Especially the men. I can't handle hate mail. I am so fragile. My And some of the And some of the women.

Fragile. Yeah. Some of the men. Yeah. Um Okay. So, that being said, we uh whi I whisked you away. I didn't whisk you away, but we managed to get away for a couple of days this last weekend because we uh you had we h we we you you had Are you having a stroke? I think maybe. Oh, no. I'm not. We can't have that. I was usually in bed two hours ago. We can't have that. There was a show that we needed to go to and that show was the found footage festival. found footage festival. Nick Pruer. No, it's upstairs. I'll get the the I got a copy of VHS copy of Chop and Steel as I'll put the I'll put the Nick Nick came on the show this year earlier uh in 20 well within the last year Nick's been on the show. So Nick Per um and Joe Picket um they started the Found Footage Festival 20 years ago. They're celebrating their 20th anniversary and they were stopping through Vancouver and I had to go Nick for like Nick Per was segment producer and he was uh watch his episode. Uh it's funny Darren Cox had never seen it and Darren Darren watched it this week uh because he watched Chop and Steel and he he knew all about Nick now and and and and he watched the episode he's like that might be the best episode of the letter podcast you've ever done. I'm like all right well cool because Nick's amazing. I I love this guy. And um and so yeah, it was really really cool to see him in his element.

The found footage festival, it's got a cult following. It should have a mainstream following. Okay. I want to let I want to ask you what you thought of the found footage. So the premise is Nick and Joe have one of the biggest VHS collections in the whole world. Offbeat stuff. And what they've done is they've curated it and come up with some of the wacky stuff uh uh strange things or whatever and they've put it into built it into a comedy show. Okay, that's the premise of it. You really at the end of the day and it was not even close to your radar. You didn't know what it was that we were going to and you saw it. What did you think? I liked it. What a ringing endorsement, ladies and gentlemen. I didn't want to. She liked it. Why didn't you want to? Because that's Nick and Joe. They're great guys. Not that I didn't want to. It's just that, you know. Okay. So, I don't know for all of you who have been watching this show. I mean, you are an eclectic enigma of a man. You You're very puzzling. You've got lots of things. Your brain is like a Dr. Seuss book. I mean, it's like, you know, Mike. Anyways, I don't know about any of that.

Mike said, uh, I want to go to Vancouver for the Found Footage Festival, and all I could think of was, I need to get to Vancouver, and if I need to sit through something to do it, I will. Um, cuz we also wanted to go see something else. Yes. Uh, the Banksy exhibit was saw and I love Banksy. So, Banks, I know you watch this show. Um, I hope Bangsy is Jimmy Cotty from the Kale. would love to. Anyway, so anyways, um so I was like, "Sure, I'll go because I needed a vacation so bad." Yeah. So, it was But we went and vacation. I did not know. I didn't have any I didn't I had no context. Yeah. You had told me, but I you know Yeah. You've walked in on me watching Chop and Steel a couple of times and we're like, "Oh, those guys are going to walk out." But we're going to watch it now, though, aren't we? You're excited about that. Yeah. So I So we go to this we go to the show and it was hilarious. Like I laughed so hard at the show. It was it was clever. It was entertaining. It was I don't know.

It was just it just hit my funny bone. So I needed that laugh so bad. And I was so impressed. Like I loved it. And I didn't want to love it because I always dig my heels in when he tries to introduce me to something. Yeah. No, I'm not doing that because I'm my own person. But it was really good. You got to go to it. Is it still going? Where's it going? They went to Portland the next night and I think maybe they might have hung out with George Meyer, which is so cool because I hung out with George Meyer a month ago or six weeks ago with Steve Winer. I know. That's okay. With Steve Winer and and and George Meyer, comedy legend and apparently he's a fan of the found footage festival, which I was so tickled to hear. Yeah, cuz I mean he's got one of the greatest comedy minds of a generation and he loves what Nick and Joe are doing. Um, you know, watch the Chop and Steel. I'll put a picture up here at some point. Chop and Steel is worth watching. You got to do it.

They get into America's Got Talent. They get into there. There's It's a big time documentary. It's so good. Well, they got sued. Well, they that's in the documentary about them getting sued and and it's it's Nick Perick uh found footage festival. So, yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Really funny. Yes. Like really good. Absolutely. And um yeah, I was thoroughly impressed. So So they went to Portland and then like is this is their tour over? Is that it? I think they're touring around all year this year because this is the 20th year that they've been doing Found Footage Festival. So I think they're going all over the place. Okay. He's going to put up. Look at me. I'm directing now. So he's going to put up like I No, I'm not. You're not? No. Put like a thing. Do you have like a thing? I don't know how to put up a thing. I But what we'll do is in the Facebook group, we will uh we'll we'll tag Nick and get him to I'll say, "Hey, Nick, start putting your stuff up in the Letterman podcast Facebook group, too." Yeah, Nick is just he's amazing. It was so sweet to see him. Yeah. I wasn't sure like I wasn't sure what the reception was going to be and it was like, "Oh, he's just so happy to see."

It was just Oh, I just I get I don't know. I get imposter syndrome sometimes and it was uh it was so good. Everybody loves you except for that one guy. So, it was fun. It was it was a great time. She knows who she is. Yeah. And I was very very happy to to be there. And it's funny because now, you know, I'm like, I should just re, you know, relent a little bit more, submit a little bit more, but I still, you know, it's fun to kick a bit stink until So, so what's next? Then we went and saw Banksy. Banksy was amazing. I love Bangsy. Yeah. Like again some of the humor in his art like I mean there's there's there's it's it's there's a tie to the the ziness of of the letterman mythos as well. Bangsy is mischievous. Bangsy is you know and but it makes you think and he's profound and it was it was so good seeing that. I loved seeing that exhibit with you. It brought me a lot of joy and it really really for we were there for probably three hours. Yeah I think so got you know a couple of t-shirts exhibit. I think that's going all over the world right now. watched the documentary um Exit Through the Gift Shop. So, so good.

I really enjoyed doing that with you. I was very grateful. It literally stopped my world for two and a half hours. I was in a different world. Um so, yeah, highly recommend that. So, you know, we don't we just wanted to get this out and and have Are you closing the show? You're not closing, are you? I do. We have more. I've got things I'd like to talk about. Yeah. Oh, I'm Whose show this? Oh, all right. Uh, no. I just I I I want to I'm not really closing it yet. I just wanted to know more about like where we're going next. I think that like so you mentioned that you you know the cadence may not be as much but like is there anything that you can tell people like what to look forward to and Well, you know what? It's funny. I I'll tell you about some of the things that I don't know that we're going to be able to get to do now. There were a lot of things with Dave's anniversary coming up.

We had a pretty ambitious project that we were looking at doing and I'm gonna there's a few of the pe the players who are involved in it that I'm going to reach out to and say, you know what, maybe we can peacemail it a little bit um to do with Dave's 10y year anniversary of of of being done the late show. And I mean, you know what? It's funny, like After Midnight just got cancelled and and and Taylor Tomlinson is going to go back on the road and do and CBS has announced that the 12:30 time slot um is now going back to the affiliates. And I mean, it is a you talked about I gota I got to throw something out there. I hope CBS comes up with some sort of a show where they honor the 12:30 time slot.

like Dave when Dave came over to CBS uh you know he had Late Show at 11:30 became the signature late night star for CBS which they've never really had certainly since Johnny Carson was around and and I mean you know impacted all of late night and then he had a 12:30 spot and it started with Tom Snyder and then went over to Craig Kilbornne um you know Craig Ferguson um and and and and James Cordon and then Taylor Tomlinson with with After Midnight and And um it's going back to the affiliates now. So I hope my joke on Facebook or my line when I heard it was, "Oh, I hope you like Seinfeld re reruns." Um the idea that this it's the end of an era. Well, yeah. I mean, if you look at the evolution, though, like look at Molen uh John Molini's new show.

I love that show. Yeah. It's a great show, but I'm just saying like there's an evolution. Like there's a change that's happening. Like now it's a live show. It's on Netflix. It's like it's it's a very different obviously weekly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Weekly as opposed to nightly. And you know, I I do think that this is the way that things are going. I hope CBS puts out a 2-hour whatever going through uh the time slot from from whatever it was when Tomok over from 95 to 2025. That's 30 years, you know. And and I hope that uh Wait, that is 30 years, right? From when? 95 to 25. Yeah. Okay. Um, and a lot of most of that footage they own and the footage that they don't own, you know, they they they go to Worldwide Pants and say, "Hey, do you want to join in with us on this?" You bring Dave in for the idea of the 12:30 time slot and and and I mean, he can talk about how much he loved Tom Snyder growing up and all that sort of stuff.

Um, bring in Kilbornne, he's got his podcast. Kilbornne's awesome. Talk to him about it. Talk to talk to Ferguson, talk to Cordon, talk to Taylor, talk to everybody about it. and and and and you know CBS it'd be a fairly I think it'd be a fairly inexpensive show to produce and to me it is the end of an era and we should market somehow. So, I don't know. Maybe I'll take this clip and send it to Schwitzer and say, "Hey, who do you know? It's a good idea. Come on, CBS. Do it. Do it." Anyway, it's sad. It's really sad. Um, and so, so to answer your question, we're going to do the show. Who am I going to say this to? Who am I going to talk about this crap to? I mean, if not the, you know, the dozen fierce loyalists of the Letterman podcast. Um, and I appreciate all 12 of you. Um, we got to talk about this stuff. So, so yeah. I mean, well, and I mean that was the premise of the podcast in the first place was to keep that the greatest body of Oh my god.

Wait, the greatest body of broadcasting. That was close. She was close. We celebrate the greatest body of broadcast work in history, that of David Letterman and company. Got to do that. That's what we did. That's our tagline. That's our mission statement. you you you've done this for is because it is keep and like to get these stories out and um weekly for almost three years almost. Thanks, Dad. This might be too soon. A little dark. I'll tell it to him at the hospital. Yeah, I know. He'll forget it in 30 seconds. He'll smile. Okay. uh before we do sign off because I think we will be signing off soon because you know Yeah. No, no, that's good. I think I've got a few things few few companies I'm running right now. So, how's he changed it going? He changed it's going well. He changed it.com everybody. He changed it. We changed it. They changed it. She changed it. It's all going well. Uh yeah, lots of stuff happening which is good. Going to retire me one day.

Um, but I have I think I remember and maybe I'm wrong in this. I think we actually talked about this maybe on the trip or something, but you said something about you wanted to ask Dave a question. Yes. Oh, you rock, Candace Chisum. Okay. Yes, I do. Um, okay. Maybe we take this clip and we send it. Yeah, I'll put it keep in the show. What the hell? Okay, so uh David Letterman is interviewing Paul Schaefer in a few weeks in New York. And I would God, do I ever want to fly to New York to go to see that. Um you know, Dave having a candid conversation with his friend and band leader for decades, Paul Schaefer, like legend himself. Yes. So Dave's going to be having a conversation with Paul. I've enjoyed every time Paul was on panel. It's happened a few times on the show. It's going to be really cool to watch these two guys reminisce for those who get to watch it. Lucky. Um, but I I've there's a question that I wanted to ask Paul um that I thought it'd be kind of neat if Dave asked it because I don't know the answer. I don't know the answer at all. What's the question? The question is this. Uh, so Dave, you know, if you're listening or whatever, this is a question that I have for Paul. Hi Dave, longtime listener, first- time caller.

Um, my name is Mike and here's the question I have. Hey Paul, have you ever worked with uh Michael Jackson or any of the Jacksons? And do you have any stories, anecdotes about working with the Jacksons? And that's my question because I don't know the answer. And I would bet that, you know, Quincy Jones for sure and and and and that there'd be some contact there. And I'm curious as to what it is. And I'm just wondering also if Dave has ever had any contact with had any contact with those guys. So that was that would be my question, but I'm actually more interested almost in Paul. And and so that's the question that I would Yeah, there were a lot of questions I wish I would have asked Paul. I I I'm I love that episode. Don't get me wrong. It was a dream come true. But if there was one episode um in the run that I could take another run at, it would be Paul's cuz I was I was norm normally I'm not freaked out at all. I'm just excited. I was legitimately freaked out with Paul and Dick Cavitt. But Dick Cavitt, I think I nailed that one um a lot more solidly than I did with Paul.

But that's a question that Yeah. Um that's a question that I would I'd love to talk to music like and I love I love doing that with Will, you know, shameless name drop with Will Lee, but how much how delighted am I whenever he calls or sends me a text, right? And and I love talking music with him. And um we've been putting up some of his um his jukebox Sundays on the letter in podcast where he talks about some of the studio songs that he worked on that a lot of people don't even realize that he played the bass on. So I love talking to these guys about music. But yeah, that's the question. Um has Paul ever worked with Michael Jackson or any of the Jacksons? And any uh any stories there? There you go. I just wanted to go on record that I I do listen to you. Uh thank you for pulling that back. Yeah, you did. You remembered it very very much. Um, yeah. I don't know if there's anything else that uh probably not. This feels good. I appreciate Thank you for doing this. Oh, you're welcome. And do you do you know how to sign off?

Okay. So, it's it's this has been an episode of the Letterman podcast and with Mike Chisum. Coincidentally, I am Mike Chisum. Thank you and good night. That's how it goes. Thank you and good night. Where do you think I got that? Okay, this has been another episode of the Lettoman podcast with Mike Chisum. No, no, no, no. You're Candace Chisum. Sorry to produce you. Produce is a good euphemism, too. It can mean all sorts of other things. Sorry for producing you could be like, you know, never mind. Sorry for buying you a bag of chips. See, it could be anything. This has been another episode of the ladderman podcast with Candace Chisum. Coincidentally, I am Candace Chisum. Thank you and good night. God damn it. They're going to give you the show now. Son of a My days are numbered. Thanks, Dad. Bye. Overcoat and underpants.